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Someone died, like, right here.
She was, like, a teenager.
I started seeing the vision of a girl.
She has suffered a lot.
And she continues to suffer.
Do you think this was an accident?
No.
How severe were those injuries?
She could've had significant injuries to her head.
I'm concerned that he might actually hurt somebody.
See, he's getting mad again, and he's pissed off now.
Did you see anything?
No. I just felt it.
He threw her down.
He killed her.
There's something down there.
My name is Amy Allan.
A lot of dead people are here.
I see dead people.
This is not good.
I speak to dead people..
He is very pissed off.
And they speak to me..
The house is angry.
But there's only one way to know if my findings are real.
He's killed people.
I rely on my partner.
I'm Steve Dischiavi.
I'm a retired New York City homicide Detective..
He got shot at his house?
And I know every person, every house has secrets.
Aren't you terrified being here?
It's my job to reveal 'em.
That sounds like something out of "The Exorcist".
But Steve and I never speak..
We never communicate during an investigation.
Until the very end.
It's bad.
When we uncover if it's safe for you to stay..
Amy and I work independently of one another.
I gather evidence, interview witnesses,
and investigate the history of each location.
When we're done, we reveal our findings to the clients and each other.
I'm in Huntington, West Virginia, on my way to meet with a local dentist.
He tells me that the activity in his office is so bad,
even his employees don't want to come to work.
Worse, now that his patients are starting to see things,
he's afraid he's gonna lose his business.
Before Amy enters a location, I have to clear the area
of anything that could influence her findings.
I can't hide the fact that this is a dentist's office,
but by removing the diplomas, personal photos, and artwork..
I can ensure that Amy's walk is free of any kind of leading information.
As I approach this location, dark images begin flashing through my mind.
The dead seem restless and are already trying to communicate with me.
I..
Have this elderly gentleman with me.
He's, uh, really tall, like, 6'2" to 6'4".
He has, like, steely gray hair,
and something happened,
but I'm not sure what.
Okay.
Uh..
Something happened in his office.
I did hear, "murder. Murder, murder, murder".
So, Dr. Grimes, when we spoke on the phone, you sounded a little concerned.
Uh, what.. What's going on?
We have a problem here.
I've been in this building for nearly 40 years.
Starting out, things were just noises that could be dismissed,
but they have been increasing in intensity.
I no longer have just sounds.
I have visual things going on.
In the last year this stuff has really ramped up.
It, uh, became more and more apparent
that something was going on, something frightening.
As far as your employees go, I mean, how are they dealing with it?
Uh, they're afraid of it.
Uh, well, for example, they won't go upstairs at night.
In fact, let me just show you something.
I keep a logbook of incidents.
It's not the little ones, uh, they're too numerous, but..
In this log, you will find, uh..
Entries made by the people who work here and others.
I mean, I've never seen anything like this before.
I mean, I know people keep journals, but I never saw a ghost log before.
Are you concerned that what's ever going on here is, uh, is dangerous?
It's my concern that I could actually frighten my patients away.
If this increases, I may be in trouble, uh, as far as my practice is concerned.
Quite a few people died here..
At this location.
Quite a few people.
I don't feel good about the deaths that happened here.
Like, I feel neglect, like, just..
And I hear it. "Neglect".
So, Doc, this doesn't look like a dentist's office up here.
It used to be a bedroom, uh, in the original residence,
and, uh, now it's just a place for me to come and relax a little.
Okay, so what's going on in here?
This was, uh, originally, uh, a place
where I started seeing the.. A vision of a little girl.
You mean.. Can you describe her for me?
Yes, I can. As a matter of fact,
I've painted a painting of her several years ago,
- and I have it right here, which.. - Oh, this is her?
This is as near as I could come to the way she actually looked.
As you can see, she's very sad.
She makes you feel that you.. You've got to do something for her.
One way I've tried to communicate with her is through this painting.
There's another way, and I can show you that.
I have left toys here for her.
And I know that she's in here, because some of these objects have moved.
Do you feel like you're..
Uh, consumed by this whole thing going on in this house?
Well, if you could see her, uh, you would feel as I do.
She makes you feel that you..
You've got to do something for her.
And you're a Father, and, you know, it's..
It.. It does get to you.
I have tried very hard to reach out to her..
Because of the empathy I feel for her.
Now have you seen her on this floor?
Uh, yes. In fact, she was standing right there at that door.
So what happened here on the stairs?
I was down here, and, uh..
She would just stand there looking at me,
and I would get this strange feeling that someone was looking at me,
and I would turn around, and there she would be.
Mm.
I hate the stairwell.
I hate it. I don't know why.
Something in that space..
Is not good at all. It's..
Making me sick to my stomach.
I'm feeling a great deal of pain and negativity coming from the stairwell.
I know something horrible happened there..
And I'm nervous to find out what.
Mm.
Someone like, died like, right here.
It's a lady.
She's, like, a teenager, and..
And her heart's pounding. Her heart's pounding.
She's crying, and she peed herself.
So much pain, and, uh, she broke her legs or something.
So have you experienced anything else here?
Yes, I have. I was walking through this
hallway late one evening, turning things off.
Uh, we were ready to leave the office.
And from about this height..
A voice came to me, a man's voice, very deep.
And he said, "get out of here".
He, uh, is a huge man.
He's big, and I've heard him more than seen him.
Now you've actually seen him?
I haven't seen him so much. I saw a shadow here
and a shadow there, but he goes up and down these stairs constantly, it seems.
You can hear him stomping, literally.
He's the one that I'm really concerned about because of his aggression
and because of his size, and I'm concerned that he might actually hurt somebody.
So she died, like, right here.
This guy is laughing. He's just laughing.
This large, angry man is the same one I saw when I first arrived.
I believe he's this poor girl's Father.
He's very intimidating, extremely cruel, and sadistic.
He's just laughing and laughing.
"She was a useless bitch".
"She (Bleep) Wanted all this stuff, the little bitch".
"I didn't have a use for her any more".
Because he didn't like her any more.
He killed her.
Mm.
You know, he killed her.
He didn't like her any more, and he didn't want her around,
and she annoyed him, and..
What the (Bleep)?!
What happened?
Mm. He poked me.
He doesn't want me to really talk about it..
Because he got mad and ran away.
So, Carey, I spoke with your Dad, and, uh, he told me what was going on here.
Now what about yourself?
Have you experienced anything here?
I have, when I was a child in the waiting room.
Uh, there was a young girl, and she was kind of peeking around the corner at me.
Okay. What'd she look like?
Uh, she was young, so I'd say probably 12 or 13.
I just remember her face and her hair, because she had long hair like I did,
and that stood out to me. Long, dark hair.
She had her head hung low, and she would swing it
back and forth while she looked at me.
Did it look like the girl your Dad painted?
Yes.
Your Father seems pretty, uh, consumed almost.
Are you concerned for him?
I just worry about his reputation.
I mean, this is his livelihood.
This is everything for him..
- Right. - 40 years' worth of work.
He's got so much to lose.
Absolutely everything.
Even though the Doc and his daughter have seen the same apparition.
I need to speak with someone who's outside the family.
So I'm going to meet with a woman who used to work here
to see if she's had similar encounters.
Karen, I understand you're a former employee of the Doctor.
That's correct.
Okay, and how long did you work here?
Probably a couple years.
Okay. Now he's explained some bizarre things that he's experienced here.
Now how about yourself?
There's been some bizarre things happen to me also.
Can you tell me about anything?
I was assisting Dr. Grimes in doing a root canal..
And I glanced up.
And there was a girl standing right behind where you're standing.
What did she look like to you?
She had long..
Very well-groomed..
Dark hair.
She seemed to me to be pretty.
I can see her today as well as then.
- It's that vivid in your mind? - It's that vivid.
- Okay. - I will never forget it.
I can see it's upsetting for you to even be in the building.
This room doesn't bother me as bad..
As the room upstairs.
I went up to get a file.
And I could feel someone in that room with me.
Did you see anything?
No. I just felt it.
What happens when you walk into that room?
That room..
I felt like something came over me, like..
Like someone was watching me.
What the (Bleep)?
The more I'm here, like, uh..
The more I don't like this place.
Why?
Well..
This guy was not good, and he was a liar.
He's hiding h.. What h.. He looks like.
Ever since the big man poked me on the stairs, he's been hiding.
I know he's watching me, but he doesn't want to be seen.
See, he's getting mad again. Yeah.
- Is he back, hon? - He's, like, coming.
Coming.
Charlotte, I understand that you actually worked for the Doctor?
Yes, I did.
Okay. What did you do?
I owned a commercial cleaning business, and I cleaned his offices.
Now I was wondering if you, while you were working here,
ever experienced anything paranormal.
Yes. Yes, I did.
I was working in the kitchen, and I heard this crying,
and so I come back into this room.
And this little girl is not crying..
She's sobbing..
As if her heart's broken.
What did you do next?
I came in and sit down.
Although I didn't see her..
I heard her, and I wanted to sit down and comfort her.
And try to help her in any way I could.
And you just sat down and started trying..
- Yes. - To calm her down?
- Right. - But you never saw her?
No. No.
Whenever I come up these stairs, I can feel her.
I.. I can feel her presence, and I can feel the sadness..
And the heaviness.
She has suffered a lot.
And she continues to suffer.
It's (Bleep) Up.
He did, like, not want to..
Really take care of his family.
Like, he felt like they were leeches..
And.. And, like, he would, like, starve people.
Like I feel like he's starving people, he's lying..
He, like, um, is, um..
Just bad.
Just a bad person.
And, um..
And then the.. There's..
There's blood everywhere.
So far, all I've got is a lot of witness testimony,
as to what's going on inside Dr. Grimes office.
But I need facts.
Going through the library's archives.
I find an article about a 21-year-old girl who died in 1929.
From a fall in the same building the Doc runs his practice at.
The Doc told me he keeps seeing a young girl who looks like she's sad and in pain.
Now it turns out, a young girl actually died in his duplex.
So I'm headed off to meet with a local historian,
who promises to tell me the rest of the story.
I came across this article about a girl named Lavina.
That died from a fall in the location I'm investigating, but it's very vague.
Uh, so I was wondering if you could help me out.
She's sort of a woman of mystery.
Uh, what we do know about her, though, says..
Suggests that her story was a very tragic one.
Her Mother, uh, Bernice..
Was, uh, married to, uh, this gentleman named, uh, Cyrus.
- Okay. - Apparently, uh, he liked to drink.
And when he, uh, was drunk, he liked to, uh, beat on his wife.
And then, of course, the next day, he sobered up and was very contrite.
In 1913, Lavina, her elder sister, and her Mother left.
And moved into the duplex on 20th street.
- In Huntington. - Okay.
Where Dr. Grimes' office is now?
Exactly.
We don't know if the Father ever came back and..
Or tried to find them or..
We don't.. We don't know.
Okay, but he was a miserable bastard, this guy, apparently.
And they, they had to get away from him.
That's what the record, uh, suggests.
I feel like there's..
People. They're arguing.
There's a male, and he's a liar..
And there's the two ladies, and..
And, uh, he..
Wha..
He's chasing.. Like, he's following them.
And..
Uh..
He's doing things.
As I walk through this house, I keep seeing
the dead girl's Father by the stairwell.
He's very upset, and he's taking his aggression out on his family.
His wife..
Ran away because he's coming in, and he's pissed off now.
This is happening right now?
Yeah.
Uh, it says she died from a fall.
Um, but the articles are vague, and they just..
The articles are, uh, not just vague.
They're contradictory.
Right.
I have here, uh, her death certificate.
Which actually says that she died..
From acute alcohol poisoning.
But the paper says she's.. She fell, so..
Well, who.. Who do you thinks right?
I have no idea.
This is during prohibition.
West Virginia went dry in 1914.
But nobody stopped drinking.
One word..
"Moonshine".
Ah.
And what prohibition did was create an entirely new market for the moonshiners.
Okay.
- But moon shining is an art. - Right.
If you don't do it right, you can kill your customers.
So it.. All possibility is she could've gotten a hold of some bad liquor.
Exactly.
So the death certificate says one thing, and the newspaper articles say another.
One article, uh, says that she died after an illness of ten days.
As the result of a fall.
Okay.
Her legs are messed up, like, so there's nerves..
There was a pain here.
A really bad pain here, like a crunch.
And this guy is laughing. He's just laughing.
Do you think this was an accident?
No.
He's happy about it.
I think..
He threw her down.
This is so (Bleep).
I think he tossed her over.
Something about this case does not sit right with me.
The newspaper article states that Lavina died from a fall.
But the death certificate lists another cause of death.
So what I did was send all the paperwork over
to one of the top paramedics in the County
to see if he can make any sense of it for me.
So, Steve, I'm sure with your experience, uh,
you've responded to thousands of people falling.
Now the pain she must've been in
- if it was a fall.. - Right.
Uh, how severe were those injuries, uh, that she died from?
If she was climbing the stairs and she fell 10 or 12 stairs,
which would've been her height or two times her height,
you know she could've had significant injuries, significant injuries to her head,
bruises on the brain, bleeding that starts to spread.
As that bleeding starts to spread, they're gonna have severe headache.
After severe headache, they're gonna have blurry vision,
and after blurry vision, you know, ultimately,
altered mental status, and then unconsciousness.
He, like, threw her down.
He was like, "it's like.. She's all broken. (Bleep) ".
And then..
There was a pain here.
A really bad pain here, like a crunch.
Yeah. Oh, that.. (Bleep).
I don't know. Maybe she broke her back.
It's not good at all.
It's really bad.
The death certificate lists alcohol poisoning as the cause of death.
Now it's 1929, so this is prohibition.
Right. The federal government was still producing..
Uh, alcohol for medicinal purposes.
Now would a civilian be able to get that?
What they tried to do was they tried to take that medicinal alcohol..
And they would put small traces of poison in that alcohol.
To prevent people from using it as a recreational, uh, drink.
And just for the purposes that it was produced.
Okay, so that.. That was their way of trying to curb them from using it.
Exactly.
So, Steve, if she started to ingest this poison liquor,
uh, would it taste like alcohol? Would it.. What would happen?
As she ingested this, it's gonna cause severe burning in her upper airway.
As she swallows it, it's gonna cause burning
going down her esophagus down into her stomach.
And it's gonna aggravate her stomach lining.
Would moonshine cause that same type of symptom?
Yes. When they filtered these homemade spirits,
they were filtered through radiators,
and eventually lead poisoning, uh, could've been a possibility.
The daughter that died on the stairs..
There was a sickness with the throat.
Uh, like, um..
Really bad illness that affected..
Uh, the throat.
Like a.. Really bad.
It's, uh, really this intense pain.
Going all the way down.
Can you describe the pain in their throat?
It's like if you've eaten a lot of lemons.
And then you get the pain in your ears.
And it's all raw and burning.. Like that.
The death certificate says one thing. The newspaper articles say another.
I'm up in the air on what I think might have happened.
So I wanted to get your opinion and what you thought about both the reports.
By looking at the newspaper accounts, reviewing her death certificate..
It looks like Miss Wall either was drinking..
Went to climb the steps, fell down the steps,
suffered some type of head injury or internal bleeding.
Or she had fallen.
And after she had fallen, she may have been trying to, uh, lessen that pain..
Numb those nerve receptors herself.
By using, whether it be illegal or legal spirits.
Okay, but the cure could've been worse than the illness.
- Yes. - Okay.
During my walk, I encountered an older man
and the daughter I think he brutally murdered.
I'm meeting with a sketch artist to reveal what I saw.
He's approximately 60 to 65.
If you could describe him in, like, a couple words..
"Cowboy".
He has a very rugged..
Uh, thick skin.
Because he used to do a lot of work outside.
Does he carry a lot of.. Any weight in his face?
- No. - Okay.
Mm-mm. He's broad-shouldered.
His hair is very thick.
It's wavy.
- It's a nice silver gray. - Okay.
Amy, is this who you saw?
Yes.
Now that our investigations are complete.
We're hoping our findings will help Dr. Grimes save his practice.
I've invited Karen to join us because I feel she
needs answers to her own terrifying experiences.
Dr. Grimes is..
The owner of the duplex.
It's his dentist office.
Karen actually used to work for Dr. Grimes.
The reason we are here and why he called us in is, uh..
He's had activity there for the entire time.
But recently it's really increased.
He thinks he may be losing patients
because of some of the things that are going on there.
And he needs to know what's happening.
With that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
And she can start telling us about her walk.
This is really bad.
Really bad.
So I started going up one the staircases..
And I saw this..
Girl laying there.
And she was dead.
She was, like, twisted.
Her legs are not right.
One was bent awkwardly at the knee.
Mm.
She was in absolute agony.
All of her nerves in her legs were, like, on fire.
And I got this intense throat pain.
There was a sickness with the throat.
Uh, really this intense pain's going all the way down.
And it's all raw and burning.
There was a young girl that did die..
Back in 1929.
Her name was Lavina Wall.
But the cause of her death is unclear.
Newspapers articles say she died from a fall.
- Oh, my gosh. Really? - A fall?
The death certificate, which I have here,
says she died from acute liquor poisoning.
What?
It was the prohibition, so it was medicinal liquor.
Um, but some of the liquors had poison in it.
He said if that happened, if she drank it, she would've..
Choking and burning sensation in the throat.
Windpipe would close.
Well, she died an agonizing death. She lasted a few days.
Ohh.
You know, you've had an instance where you've seen a young girl.
I would get a strange feeling that someone was watching me.
Mm-hmm.
And I would turn and look at the.. The doorway at the top of the stairwell.
And just for a split instant..
I would see a flash of a little girl.
I could see pain in her eyes.
And a longing for someone to understand that pain.
Mm-hmm.
It.. It's hard to describe that, but it.. It was a..
A, um, a moment of change.
From absolute terror..
Mm-hmm.
To feeling that you wanna help someone.
I did do a sketch of the scene.
That I saw on the staircase.
Oh, my God.
Now you're very protective of this..
- Little entity that you see. - I am.
Now how do you feel about that, seeing her like that?
Well, it's like seeing one of your children hurt.
Really hurt.
Did you get to see her face or anything?
I did not.
I only got a quick glimpse of her face.
So I didn't feel confident enough to sketch it.
But I got a very strong sense of everything else about her.
The unfortunate part about this girl is..
I couldn't find a photo of her anywhere.
But the good Doctor here is quite a painter.
He actually painted a picture of her.
Which I have.
Everybody else has seen it but you.
Oh, wow.
- So you think it's her? - Without a doubt.
Dr. Grimes, can you do me a favor and explain to Amy..
How you're trying to communicate with this little girl?
There's a closet in the room at the top of the stairs..
And I, over the years, have put toys in there.
To let her know that there are people who care.
I don't know if I'm doing the they're thing or not.
Is that a good thing or a bad thing he's doing?
Really bad.
What can happen is that..
A lot of times, um, we become a little too attached.
That attachment can actually be something else that kind of holds them here.
Oh.
What else did you see?
Um, I also encountered..
A really negative male.
At the top of the stairs..
Who I believe is her Father.
And he really hated his family.
This guy is laughing.
He's just laughing and laughing.
"She was a useless bitch".
"She (Bleep) Wanted all this stuff".
"And I didn't have any use for her any more".
Why don't you explain to Amy what you told me, about..
What's going on upstairs?
In the stairwell..
I have heard a man really putting his feet down hard.
Like he's stomping.
And I get the impression he's a rather large man.
He came up behind me one evening as I was turning
off the lights and everything in the house.
He simply said, "get out of here".
I would get so afraid that I would just have to leave.
He's aggressive.
He seems to be angry about something.
He's very violent.
- Violent? - Yes.
He is a very violent personality.
When I was talking about what happened to her..
He became extremely upset.
And then he came up behind me and he..
Poked me really hard right here.
And then he ran away.
What the (Bleep)?!
What happened?
He poked me.
Because he got mad and ran away.
Now, Karen, you.. You.. You're.. You got emotional again.
I was upstairs..
And I was hit with something..
That I was so cold it affected my whole body.
My knees were shaking. It was bad. Very bad.
Very frightening.
There's a back story to Lavina.
The girl that died in the duplex.
Her, her Mother, and her older sister..
Fled Ohio from their abusive, drunk Father.
His name was Cyrus.
And just by looking at the photo of him, you can see he's a real miserable guy.
Wow.
He was abusive. He was a drunk.
He beat his wife. But then the next day, he would be apologetic about it.
Whoa. Okay.
Um, so I did a sketch.
That I think might be him.
You think?
You guys can tell me.
Wow.
Look at this photo.
Now look at this sketch. You tell me.
So I did a sketch.
That I think might be him.
Wow.
Look at this photo.
Now look at this sketch.
You tell me.
The same.. Cruel mouth.
The same boxer-like nose.
And ears.
Yeah, the long ears.
- She has him. - Mm-hmm.
I would say that's him.
I can feel it.
It's weird.
I'm just, like, freaked out a little bit.
What would bring him to the house?
I think..
He, uh, killed her.
He was at the top of the stairs, picked her up, and threw her.
Oh, my God.
One of the things that I did get,
um, was that he did attempt to make it look like an accident.
My gut and my investigative background..
I wouldn't doubt that this guy was capable of doing what he did.
I don't know might possess a man to come looking for his daughter
and kill her in cold blood.
But as a former Detective, I've seen this plenty of times before.
You said that you heard him laughing, uh, about this..
The.. The fact that he knew what he had done?
Oh, yeah.
He was very proud of himself.
Well, I'll be.
I never even.. Dreamt of that.
This evil man continues to haunt this location..
Because he wants to keep the events surrounding his daughter's death unknown.
Well, Doctor, now we're gonna answer your most pressing question..
Is it safe for you here?
And is there a way to stop some of these spirits scaring away your patients?
For that, I'm gonna turn it over to Amy.
The first thing that I would recommend is getting rid of her Father.
He needs to be removed from the location.
I have some things that I brought that I felt would be good for getting him out.
This is a blend of natural herbs.
Something that you burn and you can walk through the house with it.
It's for home blessing and protection.
And then we have some holy water.
He's not gonna like this at all.
This is going to make him very uncomfortable.
And then the last thing we have is black salt.
That's going to keep him out.
And you wanna do this once every day for a week.
So he knows that he's not allowed back in that house.
After you deal with him.
The next step is going to be connecting with her.
Having a talk with her, and letting her know..
That it's okay for her to go.
It may take several months.
Because you guys are so attached to each other, to work through it.
And you may see a lot of changes with her.
And they'll be positive changes as she's getting ready to.. To leave.
So does he just tell her, "you should go, move on"?
Or what does he.. What does he tell her?
Well, it's kind of like sitting down and being like..
"You know, we.. We know the truth.
We know what happened to you".
Because it really validates them.
To be acknowledged and have their stories heard.
That's one of the most important things for the dead.
Karen, h.. How does all this information make you feel?
I mean, do you feel validated?
Yes.
I think.. I think we've got some closure now.
Okay.
Doc, are you gonna be able to let her go?
Because you're.. You're really, like, almost
a fatherly figure right now with her.
I have to.
It's.. It's for her.
It's for her.
It's not me. It's her.
I'll miss her, but I certainly wouldn't miss him for one split second.
No not at all.
Even though it may look bizarre to you..
It looks bizarre to me..
Just promise me you'll take her advice.
I will.
I really hope that Dr. Grimes follows through..
And cleanses the house of the angry Father.
Even if it means letting go of the little girl he's grown so attached to.
Subs created by: David Coleman.